Episode #60 – The Great Listener Debate – Changes vs. No Changes – 3 vs 3


DING!!!!! 60!!!!!

We did it! Sixty episodes of Countdown To Classic! And how do we celebrate getting ready for raiding at Countdown HQ? With a huge special community event!

Listen in as Josh organises six listeners for an old school, 3 vs 3, high school style debate on the topic that has had everyone talking the past 9 months – Changes vs. No Changes!

Listen in to see if your ideals and beliefs were put forward in the best possible way as Josh moderates a semi-formal debate on how we all feel about what’s to come with World of Warcraft: Classic.

Highlights Below:

  • The Great Debate – 3:30
  • Heartfelt Thank You and Many Shout Outs – 1:47:00


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4 thoughts on “Episode #60 – The Great Listener Debate – Changes vs. No Changes – 3 vs 3”

  1. The most interesting topic what you touch on here is whether Blizz will go for the museum version (aka private servers) or the experience version of the game(change loot tables, change instance behavior,remove world buffs etc). For example, playing on a server 1.12 will not give you the authentic vanilla experience, since no one knew anything about the game@ (retail vanilla) and didn’t know anything about where to get or what the “BIS”gear was och they had none of the guided class guides or dungeon encounter guides etc (the game was much harder and demanded even more coop). Releasing the private server version vill not give the vanilla authentic experience. So what are blizz choosing here? After all, they call it the classic experience =). /thanks for a really good and entertaining show !


  2. holy shit, the nochanges crowd is dense. “hypothetically, if there wasn’t any snowball effect”, “dude, snowball effect durr…”


  3. A lot of great points made by both sides in this podcast. I think it all boils down to what Blizzard wants out of Classic. Are they just trying to appease the nostalgic players who have been building up on private servers for the past 10+ years? Or do they want to potentially make a profit off of it? If it’s the former, then I think they should leave the game alone. If it’s the latter, then I think they need to tweak the meta a little bit, fix some of those broken quests, add in some of that unfinished content, and keep the Classic ball rolling well into the future. I’m on the fence myself but I can say that I’d be a bit disappointed if Classic folded after a year or two if/when it turns out nostalgia isn’t enough to justify a monthly subscription.

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